DISQUS

Are You Screening?: Why Twitter Is Doomed To Failure

  • Rhys | Retro Garden · 11 months ago
    I'm inclined to agree. I've been using twitter for a while, and really cannot see the point. It just seems that people are hoping it can turn them into millionaires, but can't yet.


    I just seem a little lost on it myself. Can't really work out exactly what it's for. Used Mr. Tweet to find afew people worth following (I'm not in the whole IM/MMO niche, so it's quite a small number), so hopefully I'd find it useful eventually!
  • Rhys | Retro Garden · 11 months ago
    I'm inclined to agree. I've been using twitter for a while, and really cannot see the point. It just seems that people are hoping it can turn them into millionaires, but can't yet.


    I just seem a little lost on it myself. Can't really work out exactly what it's for. Used Mr. Tweet to find afew people worth following (I'm not in the whole IM/MMO niche, so it's quite a small number), so hopefully I'd find it useful eventually!
  • areyouscreening (areyouscreeni · 11 months ago
    @mashable http://tinyurl.com/a433b9 Why Twitter Is Doomed To Failure
  • areyouscreening (areyouscreeni · 11 months ago
    @mashable http://tinyurl.com/a433b9 Why Twitter Is Doomed To Failure
  • areyouscreening (areyouscreeni · 11 months ago
    @problogger http://tinyurl.com/a433b9 Why Twitter Is Doomed To Failure
  • areyouscreening (areyouscreeni · 11 months ago
    @problogger http://tinyurl.com/a433b9 Why Twitter Is Doomed To Failure
  • areyouscreening (areyouscreeni · 11 months ago
    @SceneStealrEric http://tinyurl.com/a433b9 Here you are...LOL you were the only response I could use
  • areyouscreening (areyouscreeni · 11 months ago
    @SceneStealrEric http://tinyurl.com/a433b9 Here you are...LOL you were the only response I could use
  • djamesalbert (Darren Albert) · 11 months ago
    Why Twitter is doomed to failure...at least according to this guy: http://bit.ly/BIrb (can't say I agree even remotely....)
  • djamesalbert (Darren Albert) · 11 months ago
    Why Twitter is doomed to failure...at least according to this guy: http://bit.ly/BIrb (can't say I agree even remotely....)
  • lheidner (Lillemor Heidner) · 11 months ago
    RT @djamesalbert: Why Twitter is doomed to failure: http://bit.ly/BIrb Amusing how mass-consciousness set 'rules and expectations' though.
  • lheidner (Lillemor Heidner) · 11 months ago
    RT @djamesalbert: Why Twitter is doomed to failure: http://bit.ly/BIrb Amusing how mass-consciousness set 'rules and expectations' though.
  • Michael Rivers · 11 months ago
    Very interesting. I have not jumped on the Twitter band wagon. I'm a bit behind on all the electronic social networking one is supposed to be doing. Just last week I got my facebook going. And already I'm thinking, "Just another thing to keep track of." Now I'm told I need to be on Twitter. Will it ever end. Part of the reason I was so slow to join facebook, is that this stuff seems to burn out faster than starts. Maybe in a few months I will give it a shot!
  • Michael Rivers · 11 months ago
    Very interesting. I have not jumped on the Twitter band wagon. I'm a bit behind on all the electronic social networking one is supposed to be doing. Just last week I got my facebook going. And already I'm thinking, "Just another thing to keep track of." Now I'm told I need to be on Twitter. Will it ever end. Part of the reason I was so slow to join facebook, is that this stuff seems to burn out faster than starts. Maybe in a few months I will give it a shot!
  • areyouscreening · 11 months ago
    Appreciate the comment. You are perhaps a good example of my post. Too many people who aren't on really can't figure out why they should be on, and I can't blame them.


    I'd really suggest trying it out, and mainly because it is so easy to make it whatever you want it to be.



    Whether you follow a few people or thousands, only your friends or news sites, you can make it your own.





    As to the burning out, I'm probably not 100% sincere in my post on that score. It's been around for years, and it seems to be doing fine in terms of growth. My real worry is new people joining, not really figuring out the benefit, and then abandoning it.





    Cheers.
  • areyouscreening · 11 months ago
    Appreciate the comment. You are perhaps a good example of my post. Too many people who aren't on really can't figure out why they should be on, and I can't blame them.


    I'd really suggest trying it out, and mainly because it is so easy to make it whatever you want it to be.



    Whether you follow a few people or thousands, only your friends or news sites, you can make it your own.





    As to the burning out, I'm probably not 100% sincere in my post on that score. It's been around for years, and it seems to be doing fine in terms of growth. My real worry is new people joining, not really figuring out the benefit, and then abandoning it.





    Cheers.
  • areyouscreening · 11 months ago
    Again, I really appreciate the responses that are helping make my point. You have to sort of figure out the use, and/or your specific use, and that's part of the problem.


    Depending on what you might be interested in, you can search google for lists of news sites, businesses, hobbies, or interests which have twitter accounts, and see what looks interesting from there.





    A lot of the people I follow came from finding a few interesting people, and then seeing who they send messages to.





    Cheers.
  • areyouscreening · 11 months ago
    Again, I really appreciate the responses that are helping make my point. You have to sort of figure out the use, and/or your specific use, and that's part of the problem.


    Depending on what you might be interested in, you can search google for lists of news sites, businesses, hobbies, or interests which have twitter accounts, and see what looks interesting from there.





    A lot of the people I follow came from finding a few interesting people, and then seeing who they send messages to.





    Cheers.
  • nyxxie23 (nyxxie23) · 11 months ago
    "Why Twitter Is Doomed To Failure" - A very insightful article. http://tinyurl.com/a433b9 Do you believe Twitter is Doomed?
  • nyxxie23 (nyxxie23) · 11 months ago
    "Why Twitter Is Doomed To Failure" - A very insightful article. http://tinyurl.com/a433b9 Do you believe Twitter is Doomed?
  • Paul Baines · 11 months ago
    I've hooked up my blog posts on Twitter - those who are bothered can see a snippet of what I've written - i follow people If I find their blogs interesting and if the owners are desperate for me to, but essentially it's just another promotional tool. I would say this though - if Twitter was a country I wouldn't want to live there ;)
  • Paul Baines · 11 months ago
    I've hooked up my blog posts on Twitter - those who are bothered can see a snippet of what I've written - i follow people If I find their blogs interesting and if the owners are desperate for me to, but essentially it's just another promotional tool. I would say this though - if Twitter was a country I wouldn't want to live there ;)
  • areyouscreening (areyouscreeni · 11 months ago
    @DavidPogue http://tinyurl.com/a433b9 another reply to your twitter post
  • areyouscreening (areyouscreeni · 11 months ago
    @DavidPogue http://tinyurl.com/a433b9 another reply to your twitter post
  • areyouscreening · 11 months ago
    Pretty harsh commentary.


    On the other hand, one of the great things about Twitter is that there is no particularly "there" where you have to live.





    Thanks for the comment.
  • areyouscreening · 11 months ago
    Pretty harsh commentary.


    On the other hand, one of the great things about Twitter is that there is no particularly "there" where you have to live.





    Thanks for the comment.
  • Bill Simmon · 11 months ago
    Marc, I left the following reply under the post at my blog. Thanks for commenting. I'm leaving it here too for the sake of the discussion continuity over here... Cheers.






    Damn. Burned by that whole interactive part of interactive media. I have to keep reminding myself that my offhand snarky comments can be read by people I’m commenting about!



    Mark, sorry if I came off as flip about your piece. It came last in a series of links I’d seen recently that were highly critical of Twitter and to be fair, yours was far and away the best of the lot (in that it’s clear you’ve actually spent time using it and thinking about it!).



    Now that I’m shamed into giving something of a thoughtful critique, I’ll say I disagree with your premise — that Twitter can’t stay as it is now and succeed. What it is now may not be immediately evident to the uninitiated or may seem silly and pointless to many, but it has value all the same. Twitter is just a way of socializing. Asking what it’s “for” (not you, but those who do ask this question) is like asking what a cocktail party is “for.” The question is absurd. Twitter is for Twittering, and that has its own value.



    I was at SXSW when they launched Twitter and I stood there in the beer tent chatting with my friends about what a dumb idea it seemed like and why was everyone so crazy about it? Now its a significant part of my low-level socializing on a daily basis. And if a numbskull like me can make that leap, a whole lot of other people can too, without much hand-holding.



    As an aside, I find advice like Problogger’s about leveraging Twitter for marketing purposes to be missing the point almost as much as people who think it’s just a Facebook status rival, but that’s another thread.



    Also, Let the Right One In was one of the best films last year. My review of it is here: http://www.vtiff.org/blog/let-the-right-one-in



    Thanks for commenting!
  • Bill Simmon · 11 months ago
    Marc, I left the following reply under the post at my blog. Thanks for commenting. I'm leaving it here too for the sake of the discussion continuity over here... Cheers.






    Damn. Burned by that whole interactive part of interactive media. I have to keep reminding myself that my offhand snarky comments can be read by people I’m commenting about!



    Mark, sorry if I came off as flip about your piece. It came last in a series of links I’d seen recently that were highly critical of Twitter and to be fair, yours was far and away the best of the lot (in that it’s clear you’ve actually spent time using it and thinking about it!).



    Now that I’m shamed into giving something of a thoughtful critique, I’ll say I disagree with your premise — that Twitter can’t stay as it is now and succeed. What it is now may not be immediately evident to the uninitiated or may seem silly and pointless to many, but it has value all the same. Twitter is just a way of socializing. Asking what it’s “for” (not you, but those who do ask this question) is like asking what a cocktail party is “for.” The question is absurd. Twitter is for Twittering, and that has its own value.



    I was at SXSW when they launched Twitter and I stood there in the beer tent chatting with my friends about what a dumb idea it seemed like and why was everyone so crazy about it? Now its a significant part of my low-level socializing on a daily basis. And if a numbskull like me can make that leap, a whole lot of other people can too, without much hand-holding.



    As an aside, I find advice like Problogger’s about leveraging Twitter for marketing purposes to be missing the point almost as much as people who think it’s just a Facebook status rival, but that’s another thread.



    Also, Let the Right One In was one of the best films last year. My review of it is here: http://www.vtiff.org/blog/let-the-right-one-in



    Thanks for commenting!
  • areyouscreening · 11 months ago
    Wow, many points.




    First, I didn't take you as being flip really. I only thought, "agh... that's not what I mean."





    I think I'm with you very much insofar as people asking what it's "for" except in this sense...



    Asking what a cocktail party is for is absurd largely because you already know what a cocktail party is for, if you catch my meaning. But, try and imagine getting people to your cocktail party when instead of saying cocktail party you're saying Twitter, or Jutenhoop, or Gifletesnog, or anything else that means nothing at all to them.



    I completely agree that Twitter not only has value, but it also has use and real power. Hell, Neil Gaiman @ed me today... how cool is that?



    What I mean by it not being able to go on, is that it uses resources and has no revenue stream, and doesn't have a real good way to get the uninitiated into the fold.



    A whole lot of people can make the leap, and it honestly isn't difficult, but there needs to be someway to get more people to care about making the leap.



    It's growing, and it is doing fine (in some sense), but it seems to be growing in a way that taxes resources without adding to revenue potential.





    I humbly suggest that I mean that Twitter is doomed to failure in perhaps much the same way that Jonathan Swift meant we should eat babies.



    I don't think it is going to fail, but I think it is in for some hard times ahead if more people somewhere don't try to give people an idea of what there is to get out of it.





    Also, I rather agree about Problogger and similar. Although, at the same time, part of what I think is great about Twitter is that you can make your own world out of it, and there are a lot of different ways to get your own personal value out of it.





    And, yes, it was a great movie... that's why I picked it!







    If you wanted to do me a great favor, you could put me on some manner of reminder list for next year's festival. As I'm actually relatively close, I'd love to attend.





    I greatly appreciate the time you took commenting.







    Cheers.
  • areyouscreening · 11 months ago
    Wow, many points.




    First, I didn't take you as being flip really. I only thought, "agh... that's not what I mean."





    I think I'm with you very much insofar as people asking what it's "for" except in this sense...



    Asking what a cocktail party is for is absurd largely because you already know what a cocktail party is for, if you catch my meaning. But, try and imagine getting people to your cocktail party when instead of saying cocktail party you're saying Twitter, or Jutenhoop, or Gifletesnog, or anything else that means nothing at all to them.



    I completely agree that Twitter not only has value, but it also has use and real power. Hell, Neil Gaiman @ed me today... how cool is that?



    What I mean by it not being able to go on, is that it uses resources and has no revenue stream, and doesn't have a real good way to get the uninitiated into the fold.



    A whole lot of people can make the leap, and it honestly isn't difficult, but there needs to be someway to get more people to care about making the leap.



    It's growing, and it is doing fine (in some sense), but it seems to be growing in a way that taxes resources without adding to revenue potential.





    I humbly suggest that I mean that Twitter is doomed to failure in perhaps much the same way that Jonathan Swift meant we should eat babies.



    I don't think it is going to fail, but I think it is in for some hard times ahead if more people somewhere don't try to give people an idea of what there is to get out of it.





    Also, I rather agree about Problogger and similar. Although, at the same time, part of what I think is great about Twitter is that you can make your own world out of it, and there are a lot of different ways to get your own personal value out of it.





    And, yes, it was a great movie... that's why I picked it!







    If you wanted to do me a great favor, you could put me on some manner of reminder list for next year's festival. As I'm actually relatively close, I'd love to attend.





    I greatly appreciate the time you took commenting.







    Cheers.
  • Bill Simmon · 11 months ago
    It's funny, now that I think about it, there is one way in which Twitter certainly can't last. You mentioned getting an @reply from Neil Gaiman (yes, that's very cool). There are what, 3 or 4 million users on Twitter right now? And most of them don't actually actively use it. We're in this early-adoption phase when it's still possible to have actual back-and-forths with celebrities -- sort of like blogging was in 2002 -- except actual celebs (as opposed to just internet celebs) are using Twitter (I follow John Cleese, David Lynch, several Next Gen cast members and a bunch of minor celebs & internet celebs, for example). So the cocktail party is being attended by some really cool, inspiring, exciting people, who are engaged in conversations that we can listen to and even chime in on if we so choose. I wonder if once the number of Twitter users gets up over 20 million or so how that dynamic will change.
  • Bill Simmon · 11 months ago
    It's funny, now that I think about it, there is one way in which Twitter certainly can't last. You mentioned getting an @reply from Neil Gaiman (yes, that's very cool). There are what, 3 or 4 million users on Twitter right now? And most of them don't actually actively use it. We're in this early-adoption phase when it's still possible to have actual back-and-forths with celebrities -- sort of like blogging was in 2002 -- except actual celebs (as opposed to just internet celebs) are using Twitter (I follow John Cleese, David Lynch, several Next Gen cast members and a bunch of minor celebs & internet celebs, for example). So the cocktail party is being attended by some really cool, inspiring, exciting people, who are engaged in conversations that we can listen to and even chime in on if we so choose. I wonder if once the number of Twitter users gets up over 20 million or so how that dynamic will change.
  • areyouscreening · 11 months ago
    I wonder about that myself as well. Right now it probably isn't too big a deal for many, but how about when they start getting 100s of @s a day?
  • areyouscreening · 11 months ago
    I wonder about that myself as well. Right now it probably isn't too big a deal for many, but how about when they start getting 100s of @s a day?
  • billsimmon (Bill Simmon) · 11 months ago
    @CaseyContrarian Check out this discussion for more Twitter musings: http://tinyurl.com/a433b9
  • billsimmon (Bill Simmon) · 11 months ago
    @CaseyContrarian Check out this discussion for more Twitter musings: http://tinyurl.com/a433b9
  • StarMars (StarMars) · 11 months ago
    Why Twitter is doomed to failure - http://tinyurl.com/a433b9
  • StarMars (StarMars) · 11 months ago
    Why Twitter is doomed to failure - http://tinyurl.com/a433b9
  • Film-Book dot Com · 10 months ago
    Great article.


    I guess I am a "do nothing".



    I use Twitter mostly to promote my posts and see what other people are writing about. I don't go around adding everybody like a tool-bag. There is actually a plug-in or program where you plug in parameters and it will actually befriend people that meet your criteria on Twitter. I've never used it but I have the site and the program saved...just in chance.
  • Film-Book dot Com · 10 months ago
    Great article.


    I guess I am a "do nothing".



    I use Twitter mostly to promote my posts and see what other people are writing about. I don't go around adding everybody like a tool-bag. There is actually a plug-in or program where you plug in parameters and it will actually befriend people that meet your criteria on Twitter. I've never used it but I have the site and the program saved...just in chance.
  • Dorothy Stahlnecker · 10 months ago
    Thank you......I can't bring myself to go to twitter...I signed and have some followers however have not participated...and I often feel guilty...


    Dorothy from grammology

    grammology.com
  • Dorothy Stahlnecker · 10 months ago
    Thank you......I can't bring myself to go to twitter...I signed and have some followers however have not participated...and I often feel guilty...


    Dorothy from grammology

    grammology.com
  • bill_finger · 10 months ago
    Great article. Depressing, but great. I'm going to Tweet this.
  • bill_finger · 10 months ago
    Great article. Depressing, but great. I'm going to Tweet this.
  • liv · 6 months ago
    The sentiment that you've expressed is similar to my own. I think, facebooks move to incorporate similar apps has made Twitter useless except for the fact that it's a fad.... and that's the catch... if Twitter evolves why it still has so much momentum, then it could come out on top. I see a perfect match between myspace and twitter....
  • liv · 6 months ago
    The sentiment that you've expressed is similar to my own. I think, facebooks move to incorporate similar apps has made Twitter useless except for the fact that it's a fad.... and that's the catch... if Twitter evolves why it still has so much momentum, then it could come out on top. I see a perfect match between myspace and twitter....